tv Countdown With Keith Olbermann MSNBC April 21, 2010 1:00am-2:00am EDT
engineer. >> you know what, not everybody believes that story is true. >> all the news and commentary now on "countdown." >> there's an app for that. good evening from new york, events on capitol hill this afternoon subjecting the party of no has a plan b, when the country just will not take no for an answer. the party will take credit for the yes. a bipartisan agreement on wall street reform is within reach, congratulating themselves for a breakthrough in negotiations. but the pointman on negotiations likening both sides to a couple of petulent teenagers.
>> serious discussions have been resumed. i think the 41 letter last week indicating that republicans wanted to see serious negotiations occur rather than political sparring has worked at least for the short term and we're hopeful that democrats and republicans on the banking committee plus those involved on the agriculture committee on the derivatives piece can come together and give us a bipartisan, truly bipartisan bill we can move across the floor of the senate. majority leader reid's office today dismissing senator mcconnell's claim that it was his letter that restarted negotiations. the statement reading in part, really, senator? are you sure it isn't the blistering criticism you're receiving from closed-door meetings from wall street executives or members of your own party are not buying your message? that an obvious reference to bob corker of tennessee seeming to be of two minds, on one hand
accusing his party of misrepresenting the democrats' bill as well as having moved the goal posts on financial reform. on the other, senator corker sipped the gop kool-aid saying the democrats legislation does not do enough. quoting the senator -- this bill is anything but tough on wall street. there is nothing in this bill tough on wall street. corker and other republicans also defending their friends on wall street openly questioning the timing of the prosecution of goldman sachs. >> this whole goldman sachs thing, isn't that a little odd that all of a sudden at the height of this legislative period we have the s.e.c. filing suit against goldman sachs. >> you think the timing of those charges -- >> it is very suspect. secondly, think about it. goldman sachs on the deals they are talking about was dealing with the most sophisticated people in the business. you know, there's something terribly wrong here and i don't know what it is. but to do that right after this particular time, yeah, the timing is very suspect in my
eyes. >> you notice the fox guy's script was obviously marked wrong. white house chief of staff rahm emanuel himself having met with wall street executives this past sunday night. the "washington post" reporting that mr. emanuel met privately with some of the city's top investors warning them the administration supports tough new rules and as promised here is what happened on the senate floor this afternoon. the author of the bill, banking committee chairman dodd of connecticut painting a bleak picture of where things stand with the opposition which conflicts entirely with the minority leader's assessment of where those negotiations are. >> the letter from the minority leader said we've got 41 votes here to stop you from debating this bill. when you explain that to the american taxpayer, to the small business, to the american family and to others out there who are paying an awful price because of the mess these very institutions, who today are leading the charge against us getting to a bill, explain to them why the status quo is in
their interest and benefit. mr. president, those who vote to block this bill will be sending a clear message to american families, businesses, community bankers and taxpayers. and that message will be, i'm sorry, but we're not on your side. we're choosing another side of this equation. the memo that suggested this game plan written by the political strategist was written long before even one word was written on the bill. they were told how to fight the bill that didn't even exist out here, by accusing the bill leaving open the too big to fail even though they knew, at least those who read the bill, those provisions had been written so tight no one could possibly argue too big to fail would ever be allowed again under the bill we've written. the republican leadership returned promising every member of their caucus would vote to kill this bill before the debate
began. i have never, ever passed a major piece of legislation in this body over three decades when i have not had the cooperation or backing of a member or members on the other side of the aisle. never once. on every major piece of legislation i've been involved in. and here we are at the brink of going-forward with the single largest proposal to reform the financial sector of our country, and we're divided here like a couple of petulant teenagers instead of sitting around and coming together as i have offered for months to get behind a bill that would allow us to go forward. it is long overdue we grow up and recognize this isn't something athletic contest. this is about whether or not our economy can get back on its feet, whether or not we can grow and prosper, create jobs, have credit flow and capital form, so that businesses and wealth can be created.
nothing less than that is at stake in this debate and discussion. all the more reason we need to go forward and go forward like adults, like members of the greatest deliberative body, we are told, in the history of mankind, the united states senate to resolve these matters. i've worked for hours with my colleague, as he well knows, senator shelby well knows, he has said and i commend him and appreciate it, we are 80% of the way to a bipartisan consensus. in fact, i suspect that if richard shelby were asked today whether that number was 80%, i suspect he would have a higher number. imagine being between 80% and 90% in agreement yet we are being told by the minority we can't go forward. do i let you write the whole bill? is that when we can go forward? i you have 80 or 90% of what you think is a good bill, but no, no, we're going to stop any further debate. in all my years, i've never
heard of such an argument. whether i've been within the minority or the majority. i agree with 80% or 90% but i'm sorry we have to stop considering further debate on the floor of the united states senate. i have worked many hours with it is senator from tennessee, bob corker, to get to 100%, as he well knows, no matter what was said between the republican leadership and wall street executives, the fact is, the bill i will be bringing to the floor reflects a bipartisan input and good common sense as well p.m. >> goodness. time to call on our political analyst richard wolf. good evening. >> good evening. >> i'm thinking, as i listened to this, that chris dodd sum arized more than the bill. he hit ten nails on the head, didn't he? >> he did. you can understand his frustration. at the heart of it there have been tactical mistakes by the republicans, which the democrats have effectively seized on. the frank luntz memo and this
meeting between the republican leadership and the wall street executives, but even if you take the tactical stuff aside, there was a massive strategic error for the republicans. they could not portray themselves, as they did a couple days ago, as they tried to do a couple of days ago being tough on wall street, while opposing provisions to be tough on wall street. this whole show was about to unfold in a day or two on the floor of the senate where republicans were going to have to go down there and argue against and vote against these provisions to get tough on wall street. over the last month not only has the republicans' tone changed on this, back and forth, but the public polling has shown increased support for these measures. as public opposition to stopping this bill has come down, the republican whole strategy just fell apart right before our eyes. >> where is it actually right now? dodd's frustration, as you
suggested, was transcended. meanwhile, republican leadership is handling this breakthrough based on what they did and what they threatened to do. it sounds like as if it's put together, this will pass comfortably and the republicans have collapsed under it. >> well, look, the barrier to this has not actually been poor senator corker from tennessee who has been working with chris dodd all the way through this. it has been the strategy of mitch mcconnell and his leadership to block this, just as he blocked health care and pick off anyone who wavered on the side. the unity has gone for them. they are starting to lose significant numbers. they needed to lose one or two for the whole thing to collapse. it looks like they're going to lose a whole lot more, maybe ten. white house folks said to me, i asked them, which one or two are you going to pick off? they said, we could easily pick off ten or 12. the numbers have been moving. the strategy is falling apart. when you hear mcconnell say yes, okay, let's go ahead with the negotiations, it doesn't matter who gets the credit, it means mcconnell's strategy has moved and the master tactician has
ended up, well, without any clothes on. >> does this explain why there was less of an effort by mr. emanuel to conceal his meeting with wall street? that suddenly all of the sturm and drone we're looking to be re-enacted, all the various fights back and forth in health care reform are not going happen and there was no reason to keep this meeting in which he laid out the white house's plans a secret? there's no longer any reason to do that? >> i don't know that it was intentional, or the washington post should break that story. you know, what the white house points out is that this was not a fund-raising session as mitch mcconnell and john cornyn's meeting was with their wall street executives. rahm emanuel was going out there and it was one question among many. what he did was he argued for reform. what you have from the other side, from mcconnell and cornyn was arguing against reform. what kind of provisions did wall street want to change in all of this?
the appearance of rahm emanuel's meeting in new york, the geography and timing is unfortunate, ill-advised. it cannot have been helpful. i cannot believe they wanted that story to get out. >> what happens on thursday when the president speaks at cooper union? is he going to take this kind of proffered insincere olive branch from the republicans and proclaim bipartisanship on this and say it basically has been decided? >> he may well go out and say these signs are encouraging, but white house folks tell me the real message here is the folks on wall street to say this is tough medicine but you've got to take it because everyone gets stronger. this is about the system, just like the t.a.r.p. funds were for the system, not to bail out any individual institution. this is to make everyone stronger. take your lumps, eat your medicine, and everyone will be better for it, and drop your opposition. because behind the republicans
are the lobbyists who don't want to see various provisions go through. >> richard wolffe of msnbc, author of "renegade" great thanks. >> thank you, keith. today also saw something perhaps unprecedented in american history, certainly recent history. a u.s. congressman saying it may be time for a financial boycott against a state. the state he represents. yesterday arizona's house passed a pro-birther law and now both houses passed it, one seemingly out of a hollywood world war ii movie, show us your papers law, directed at immigrants and people who were born here. congressman raul grijalva next where to use them. the loyalty program he signed us up for has all these restrictions, blackout dates, a crazy point system... and we couldn't stay here. so what am i getting for free? my undying love? [ yelps ] wendy. hole-in-one. [ male announcer ] accumulate 10 nights. and get a night free. welcomerewards from hotels.com. smart. so smart.
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after the preliminary passage of two pieces of legislation, antiimmigration, pro-birther, an arizona congressman says it may be time for an economic boycott of his own state. he'll join us. the house majority whip endorses not the republican governor of the florida for the senate, but the tea party guy, the purge of the gop hive accelerates. his plan is called the plan. he has now revealed it isn't his plan and, in fact, it isn't a plan, but there is gold.
gold. and that new prototype of the next iphone, you found it in a bar. who was it left there by, elvis? ahead on "countdown." the tallest buildings leave the lightest footprints. a fifty-ton train makes barely a mark on the environment. and a country facing climate change finds climate solutions. somewhere in america, we've already answered some of the nation's toughest questions. and the over sixty thousand people of siemens are ready to do it again. siemens. answers.
students. she was one of two on the civil rights movement. she was on the platform of martin luther king during his "i have a dream speech." she worked with eleanor roosevelt to president kennedy to president obama. dorothy hite died in washington of natural causes. she takes the love of thousands, admiration of millions and an extraordinary slice of american history. dorothy irene height was 98 years old. her death and her lifelong fight against prejudice provides an extraordinary context for our fourth story. only the governor of arizona stands in the way of a new immigration bill that seems out of the pages of barnard 1929, it is so heinous, it has inspired one of arizona's congressman to propose an economic boycott of his own state. he will join us in a moment. today, latino members asked the governor jan brewer to veto the bill, now passed by the state legislature. the proposed law would require immigrants to carry alien registration documents at all times and require police to question people if they have a reason to suspect they are in the united states illegally.
translation, stop people of color at will. congressman luis gutierrez says the proposed bill also infringes on the federal government's authority to enforce immigration laws and will open the door to abusive enforcement. quoting the congressman, i'm puerto rican. i was born in chicago. my family has been u.s. citizens for generations, but look at my face. i would get picked up in arizona and questioned. is that what we want in america? as for the birther bill, it has so far only passed the arizona house of representatives. it calls for future presidential candidates to prove they are citizens before the name can appear on the ballot, and gives the arizona secretary of state discretion to keep a candidate's name off the ballot for reasonable cause, and if it became law, would presumably apply to president obama should he run for re-election in 2012, another way for the birthers to sue over the president's citizenship. past lawsuits on that issue have been summaily dismissed. let's bring in congressman raul
grijalva of arizona's seventh district. thank you for your time. >> thank you, keith. >> i have never heard a congressman in the history of this country proposing retribution against his own state. so i'm assuming you are even angrier about this than i am. >> no. we're codifying into law, if the governor signs this, racial profiling, discrimination under the constitution, we're codifying the fact that law enforcement now has a free hand to stop anybody that looks the part in terms of undocumented people, ask them for verification. it is unprecedented. it is a horrible, horrible precedent for the nation. and it -- and we can't allow it to continue with no consequences. the consequences we can only bring up right now is economic sanctions. we're asking organizations, civic, religious, labor, latino organizations of color to
refrain from using arizona as a convention site, to refrain from spending their dollars in the state of arizona until arizona turns the clock forward instead of backwards and joins the rest of the union. >> this is your state. you know the politics of it. is this going to hold or are reasonable minds going to come in and go, no, we're in the 21st century, this is not tombstone 1889? >> unfortunately, we have sheriff arpaio. we have a mentality that's made immigration the whipping child for every issue involved. while i hope the governor uses her veto discretion, i'm not optimistic. i think this fight is going to be legal, political and economic. >> am i wrong about this sort of behind the iron curtain quality here that somebody whose ancestors moved to this country in 1777 could be pulled over and asked to produce their papers as
if we were in a hollywood world war ii movie? >> absolutely. you notice know, i'm a citizen. i'm a member of congress. i can be pulled over in my hometown of arizona by local law enforcement and produce verification i am, indeed, legally in this country. it is not looking to see who is undocumented. the profile is toward a group of people and when you make that profile, you make a discriminatory, you make it fundamentally racist because that is what you are asking people to enforce. and in doing so, you have violated all the important tenets of the constitution and the rule of law. >> what stops this from being expanded further? not to suggest this isn't bad enough as it is, and the racism element is not as disturbing as anything i have ever seen. if i say arpaio is a jackass and my picture goes up on a wall, could they pull me over? can they pull anybody in arizona, let me see your papers
and if you don't have it you are going in. >> it is discretionary. that is the whole problem with the law. the discretion is not with us, the direction is with the authorities. that's what makes it dangerous. it is a dangerous precedent. this is where we are asking the obama administration to intercede, say they will not cooperate with this law if it is signed into law. if they don't cooperate the law has no effect. second of all, it begs the question, if we don't pass immigration reform in this country, we're allowing arizona to set a precedent for other states, other communities to be equally unconstitutional, equally discriminatory and equally punitive. i think this precedent needs to be defeated and has to be defeated on many fronts. >> it almost overwhelms and obscures this other action about the house passing the birther bill. give me a few of your reactions to that. >> that is unbelievable.
to give a secretary of state discretion on who can be on the ballot and if you don't produce whatever information you are being asked to produce then you are not a candidate. it is unbelievable. it is embarrassing to those of us from the state of arizona who feel that we're much better than that. >> congressman raul grijalva, one of the great representatives of that state. great thanks for your time. good luck with this. we'll stay in touch with you if we can. >> thank you very much. >> thank you. another establishment republican endorses the bizarro world candidate, not the governor for senate from florida and other tea party news tonight that the startling polls showing that members seem to support george w. bush and the republican party more than republicans did. and you get to choose any car in the aisle. choose any car? you cannot be serious! okay. seriously, you choose. go national. go like a pro. take things as they come?
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charlie crist will not withdraw and the mainstream gop will not endorse him. implosion in florida. first twitter day 13, number followers, 47,000, number of photos i self-tweeted, none. i was too busy cleaning the office. apropos the video the tea party put out, showing six african-americans at a rally which they claim 25,000 attended, from terry peeler, six black folks met in a 25k white tea party broke out. rim shot. let's play "oddball." to topeka, kansas, where a turkey is unceremoniously escorted out after a pet and
garden store. actually, just carried out. the turkey was an unwanted guest, having gotten in there of his or her own accord. i know somebody in there, man. turkey didn't have his paper. sorry, it is kansas, not arizona. meantime in pennsylvania, watch closely as mr. deer escapes from the rite-aid. and thar she goes. judging by her speed and frenzy, she may have gotten into the pharmaceuticals. police are not sure how that animal got in, either. maybe all the animals are seeking shelter from the supreme court ruling, legalizing animal cruelty videos. to a lake bed in the california desert, and a different kind of mystery. nasa's space shuttle program is ending. so what is this thing? the new iphone. no, the x-37-b orbital test vehicle. a new unmanned shuttle that could be used to send stuff into
space. once the regular shuttles have been retired. it's only 29 feet long, 15-foot wingspan. the air force has landed the x-37b in the desert. it's an ex-37b. i'm pronouncing it as an x. on thursday the prototype is scheduled to launch into space from cape canaveral. after having spent hundreds of millions on the project, the air force is being secretive about the other potential uses of the drone. it looks like it's going backwards. >> eric cantor dumps charlie crist out of fear of the tea party. is john mccain the next to try that? . ♪ you're right. i'm getting more air. -oh, yeah. -oh, wow! [ female announcer ] for two free samples, go to breatheright.com. what are you really buying? a shiny coat of paint? a list of features? what about the strength of the steel? the integrity of its design... or how it responds... in extreme situations? the deeper you look, the more you see the real differences. and the more you understand what it means
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because the republican party as you know puts country first, they are reaching out to independents, like the tea partiers. and yet it turns out in our third story tonight, the republican party is on record as saying their inclusion of independents includes getting their votes, but not electing a true independent. the president said democrats are in trouble even in california telling a democratic fund-raiser for barbara boxer not to take
her re-election for granted. warning that unless she has our support, she may not win this thing. a phrasing he did not use at subsequent events for her last night. it is the campaign of florida republican governor charlie christ hoping to become senator christ that grabbed the political headlines as it twisted his party into knots. the state's primary is not until august, but the deadline to switch parties is ten day away. with crist trailing his opponent badly in the polls, and cancelling some of his own ads, he says, you're right i'm staying in this race. yesterday going farther than he has so far, suggesting he might stay in the race as an independent. crist tell wfts-tv, i'm getting a lot of advice in that direction. i'm a listener, and certainly listening to it. senator john "country first" mccain says he will withdraw his endorsement of crist, depending on which party he belongs to. mccain said, i support
republicans. after eric cantor endorsed marco rubio, and the executive director of the campaign sent an internal gop e-mail predicting christ will not win the primary. despite his own endorsement of christ he says if partisanship is all that matters "whether or not you supported our endorsement of governor christ, we all share the same goal of keeping the seat in republican hands." let's bring in "the washington post" political report david wieggle, also reporter of an online washington post. >> thanks for having me. >> from john mccain, party first. what should independents be taking away from this news? >> that doesn't sound like the kind of thing a maverick would
do, but we all know that john mccain was never a maverick. independents are watching. as they've been doing really since april of last year. the message from this is that the republican party apparatus are going to chase out anyone who makes independent noises. remember the tipping point for crist in the past few days was him vetoing an education bill backed by jeb bush, backed by conservative republicans. he made a stab towards a more independent position, something liberals would like. that got his campaign manager to quit, that got an avalanche of endorsements to go from him to marco rubio. they are enforcing the ideology here. that is what independents are saying. >> correct me if i'm wrong, but the republicans are pushing out the guy who has the better shot at roping in independents who wins the senate seat in a three-way race? >> but they're also -- that is true. quinnipiac poll that came out this week shows crist winning narrowly in a three-way race, doing better than the democrat. but crist's fund-raising has really collapsed. one reason i think you're seeing the republicans do a full-court press against him, there might be some chance of getting him to
drop this instead of going independent. it is more discipline than what democrats did in 2006 when joe lieberman kept making noise about running as an independent. the loyalties are divided. you are seeing how much stronger the republican operation is up top, and how much more they're listening to their base, compared to how much democrats listen to their base in similar situations. >> cantor said crist can be trusted, basically. is that the tipping point where the moderates go under for the third time, you know, the tea tsunami? what does trusted mean? trusted to do everything the whips tell them to do or the tea party tells them to do, or what? >> endorsing charlie crist at this point is as controversial as liking the beatles after sergeant pepper came out. i mean, every republican is finding a different way to be more vocal in support of marco rubio, more critical of charlie
crist. so, you know, i'm not surprised to hear that rhetoric. what you are seeing is if republicans win other seats in other states, they are not going to be ablgt able to elect more marco rubios. if they win in delaware and illinois, other seats that are jewels of the crown in this season, they will elect more moderates. this is a nice place to convince the base everyone is gunning for the right targets listening to the tea parties, while at the same time they're fund-raising to get moderates in seats conservatives can't win. >> one thing more about the obama remark that he only used one time. does he really think boxer may not win in california, or is he using his own version of tea party hype to motivate democrats? >> the second thing you said is true. democrats for whatever reason are not as excited by health care getting passed, financial reform getting passed, as they are mobilized by fear of the tea party movement. but at the same time, this isn't all a bluff.
barbara boxer has usually won in years that were good for democrats. in 1992 bill clinton was on the ballot. 1998 the impeachment was happening. she is in more danger than before. they are just trying to get enough democrats motivated if this race falls off the map. and republicans can concentrate their fire elsewhere. democrats don't want to have to defend california. >> dave weigel of the "washington post," thank you for your time. >> thank you. you found the prototype of the next iphone in a bar. yeah, and i found a honnis 49er on wall street. the famous plan of lonesome roads beck. he says it isn't ready, it isn't his, it isn't a plan but it is sponsored. and when rachel joins you at the top of the hour, her special guest paul krugman will pick apart republican claims about financial reform. nk you, pothol. thank you, saltwater spray-tunnel and shaker machine. thank you to all the 5,000 tests that helped make the nissan altima better for everyone who drives it.
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things. bill-o is about to explode or it is time for our nightly feature "tea time." at a tea party rally, a survivalist said of taxes -- i don't mind paying my fair share, folks, but i do mind which i'm raped. that's awful. besides that bit of bad taste, the newspaper the "concord monitor" expressed a 17-year-old hostess who was convinced by the movement that taxes began when she got her job and barack obama became president. i'm currently working and he's taking the money i work for. i have a real problem with that. a lawyer for manchester attended. his name is greg jones. he said -- in terms of ethnicity, it is is a group that represents the country we live in. mr. jones said he said that, because he's african-american and he saw two other black people in the crowd of about 900. what we are seeing here is one seldom analyzed but constantly repeated reality about the folks who go to the something for
nothing, and nothing for everybody else parties. they are obviously not the sharpest tools in the shed. there was a comparison of the "new york times" polling data of the tea parties and perot folks. less than 5% of the tea gang said they usually or voted always democratic. 33% peroistas voted for mondale or dukakis. 54% of tea partiers gave a favorable rating to the gop. only 17% of the perot followers felt either party deserved such a compliment. the perot analyst notes that crowd approved of george w. bush and bill clinton equally. but he points at the fact that 57% of the tea partiers rated george w. bush favorably and thus takes us back to the rusty tool point. if these are small government, pay as you go don't burden our grandchildren tax protesters, heaven forbid not racists and astroturfers, why do they tow
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some guy from apple just happened to lose a prototype of the next iphone. it happened to wind up being sold to a top tech website and happened to have free publicity. that's next. first tonight's "worst persons in the world." governor chris christie of new jersey, cutting state budgets, destroying the state's educational system. demanding druconian givebacks.
how are he and his staff doing? during the state's fiscal crisis? don't worry. they're fine. the members of christie's administration were making $100,000 or more, 34, under his spendthrift predecessor jon corzine, the number was 18. a tie at the silver. revolution muslim.com and contemporary family services, a state foster home contractor, revolution muslim warned of the reality of what will likely happen to south park creators. south park's latest episode portrayed the prophet mohammed in disguise in a send-up of the debate of whether or not he can be depicted, alluding to a dutch filmmaker murdered by an islamic extremist in 2004. the site says, quote, we have to warn matt and trey what they are doing is stupid and they may end up like theo van gogh for airing the show. this is not a threat. no. it's a threat. contemporary family services is contracted by the state of maryland to place kids in foster homes. a former foster child herself
always wanted to repay those good foster parents she had by being one herself. she applied and was rejected. why? the agency complained it was concerned for the well-being of a child in her care, because she doesn't keep pork in her house, because she's a muslim. she had completed 50 hours of training for prospective foster parents and made sure the child she got was raised in the child's religion and not hers. so contemporary family services wants us to believe the threat it thinks to the kid was the absence of bacon. do they place kids in homes of the jewish or people who are vegetarian who don't like pork? our winner is lonesome roads beck. you have to hear this to believe it. especially the last part. remember his book "the plan" and his tour "the plan" and his amusement park "the plan" and tartar control, the plan? he is not writing it. it is being dictated to him. >> yesterday when i walked out
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a seriously improved prototype of the iphone was found in a bar in redwood city, california. our number one story. there are three explanations, it was a plant by apple to get buildup publicity stories like this one. b, it was left by an apple employee by accident or a visitor from the future who travelled back in time to remember the good old days before sarah palin became the anchor of the cbs evening news. if c there is another guy who
traveled back in time and left his ipad deliberately so he would never have to see it again. the official story on the phone is the preview comes courtesy of apple software engineer gray powell, out celebrating his 27th birthday, steve jobs would have his way, his last birthday at a beer garden. the tech website gizmodo apparently paid five grand for the prototype disguised as the current model. mr. powell allegedly forgot it at the bar. editors said we are skeptical. we get false tips all the time. the overall quality feels like a finished apple phone. there is so much evidence stacked in its favor that there is very little possibility it is fake. it is heavier than the current phone, larger battery, the back is flat. it includes a front facing video chat camera, improved back camera, a microsim card -- i don't know what a microsim card is -- as well as a better display with higher resolution. apple senior vp requested by a
letter that gizmoto return the device that belongs to apple. apple has the phone back. meanwhile, i went drinking with gray powell and all i have is a lousy iphone prototype t-shirt is available online. joining us is rob pegerero. thanks for your time tonight. >> thanks for having me. >> apple is known for tricks. how could this have been an accident in. >> it's weird an engineer would disregard whatever security measures apple has, just forget the thing in the bar. it's weirder apple would say, we're going to make a fake iphone, leave it in a bar, hope somebody discovers it, hope it gets passed on to a tech website instead of ebay. apple likes to strip their pr, this is way too much improv.
it's an honest mistake, a mrs. take that may cost this guy his job, but a mistake. >> the guy said he noticed it was bricked through moeb el me, which is the service that apple uses to track and wipe out lost iphones. why wouldn't they use the tracking device to find the phone? >> the story gizmodo has, is the gps part of this phone doesn't work, this was a prototype, so they wanted to make sure some things worked. other things you fix them in a later version. >> that's convenient, doesn't it go against your first conclusion, the thing that sounds the easiest would apply to that too? >> the other thing is, apple doesn't need pr, in some ways this is stepping on their pr, between they talked about the
new iphone software, they have the 3 g version of the ipad coming out, this is a distraction that's going to get people, if anything, this is going to hurt iphone sales between now and the summer, since everyone knows there's this great new model coming out. >> putting aside the origins -- i'm willing to vote for the guy who came back from the future and just forgot it, because he had 12 of them with him. it looks cool. >> i'd look at the screen, the higher resolution screen, that would be convenient, apple's now in the electronic book business. there's this i book store for the ipad. i've read parts of books on an iphone, it's not the most fun thing in the world, but if you actually -- it approaches the resolution of a printed page, that could be fun. the other thing is the second camera. video conferencing makes it useful to have not just one, but
two cameras on the phone many. >> the engineer who was supposed to have lost it, according to the story. when they officially unveil iphone 6 or whatever it,will he be on stage with steve jobs or will he be a cyborg. >> if he is on stage i hope it is all of him in one piece. right now, it is probably safe to say he is not the employee of the month at apple. >> how many do you think would have been out there? how many would they have given to how many people in the company? >> quite possible, i think apple said they had 200 people testing them covertly. maybe there are 199 employees counting their luck. >> we all know there are a couple boulevards in los angeles where every automotive company used to try out their new models. >> same thing. >> i still think it came from the future. rob, technology columnist from "the washington post," great thanks. >> you're welcome. >> that is "countdown" for the 2,536th day since the previous president declared mission accomplished in new york. where is my phone?